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Should we allow spawnkilling?

  1. Yes, with no change in spawn shield (6 votes [8.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.00%

  2. Yes, but with a longer spawn shield (14 votes [18.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.67%

  3. I have no strong opinion either way (2 votes [2.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.67%

  4. Never (53 votes [70.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.67%

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 04:00 AM

I am wondering if we should start allowing spawnkilling on B1.

It is my personal opinion that we should, however with longer spawn shields (4 or 5 seconds instead of 3). With a longer spawn shield players can get further away from spawn and easily rape anyone trying to SK with a heavy weapon. This will also clear up any problems of 'Major Stompage' (people waiting/firing right outside a spawn exit), as it would be easier for the other team to just run right through the attack with a longer spawn shield. Finally, with this rule change we can allow spawn-passing and re-entering spawn, as the other team will be able to go in after them.

I think that this is a rule change which will benefit the server in the long run, as the longer spawn shield will make it very hard to successfully spawnkill, as well as cut down on arty/air/panzer/mortar effectiveness directly outside of spawn.

This also has the added benefit of encouraging medics to revive first, and kill later, as the player they revive will have longer to kill the other player/revive the original medic. It will push more team-oriented tactics, as it will be very hard for 1 player to take on 2-3 guys and consistently win: Revive-shields will just be to long-lasting.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 04:53 AM

It is fine the way it is there is bigger issues then this.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 04:56 AM

I think the spawn killing rule works best on the pro servers. Although there are seasoned players on B-1 there are also newer players as well. I'm not in favor of that rule change at all.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 07:44 AM

I think a much smarter trend would be to encourage new map makers to make spawns that you drop from, so spawn killing would be all but impossible.


I wouldn't mind spawn killing -- it would actually teach people to not be afk so much, and leave spawn quikly, or risk dying



It gets tiring judging which is a spawn kill when people spawn around you in some maps, and you are caught in the middle, with no choice but to fight.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 10:05 AM

If you think allowing SK might help, then test it for a week max. You will notice how most of the avid players will be able to get half of the enemy team inside spawn with an airstrike and crossfire at the right positions. IMO at a fun-public allowing SK is not a good idea.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 11:07 AM

I've played on SK allowed servers before i found out a good organized, structured server like B2 and B1.

Those servers are pure chaos with all the sk. people will only camp outside to get a boner to get multikills and stuff.

If you want to SK join up for the B cup or go play ETpro.

I really really really hope |>B<| will never allow SK on the main servers that are most crowded with diferent people.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 11:13 AM

ive played on numerous servers in my day and found it that if sk is allowed the less admins need to do and ppl seem to bitch less about petty shit im all for it
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:16 PM

Increased time shield for 5 seconds would be great, but release spawk .. not think he will promote the game there is to know how to play and its rules. It might work for the old players, but for the new would be a tricky thing.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:25 PM

This has come up for a vote several times and it always has the same result, Players prefer No Spawn Kill Rule.

I, myself would like for SK to be allowed but, i think that the NO SK rule may be why alot of Players are attracted to |>B<| servers and why they come back.



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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:39 PM

Most recent vote I think was last August. Jeco is right. Thats why people keep coming to Bunker servers. Get on B8, spawn killing is allowed and B10 allows spawn passing I'm sure Gort would appreciate the patronage. If thats the type of game play your interested in. Oh yeah forgot, I say no again.


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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:46 PM

I've played on 2 servers in my ET life lol.. etgamers and bunker. Spawnkilling was allowed on etgamers.. it was funny however I voted as never..
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 03:11 PM

NEVER!!!

We would just change from major stompage to major spawnkilling.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 03:19 PM

dont allow SK or i gonna arti/stike/panza the shit out of u icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif screwy.gif icon_arrow.gif


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Posted 23 January 2010 - 05:06 PM

QUOTE(KLAUS @ Jan 23 2010, 09:19 AM) View Post
dont allow SK or i gonna arti/stike/panza the shit out of u icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif screwy.gif icon_arrow.gif

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btw i voted no sk...
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 06:19 PM

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 07:38 PM

allow sk without the use of explosives
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I'll repeat myself again... I'm a level 1000 and have been here since the beginning and I honestly have never read the rulebook aside from the first two lines or so. Why, cause its all common sense, you don't need a lawyer who writes rules, a bookkeeper that keeps track of infractions, all you need is common sense and an admin who looks at the current situations on the servers and then bends the rules to suit the funlevel at that moment and if needed turns a blind eye in favor of fun. I'm old school, you're a moron, your out, you are fun... hé cool you found your home :)
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 07:49 PM

Spawnkill promotes spawncamping and spawnpassing.
An undesired result.

Good luck trying to enforce rules as they are written if Spawnkilling gets liberated.

Its either No rules or lots of rules.. You cant have a mid-way point.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 08:54 PM

QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 23 2010, 01:38 PM) View Post
allow sk without the use of explosives


leave me out of this ;)

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:03 PM

QUOTE(MADDAD @ Jan 23 2010, 09:06 AM) View Post
QUOTE(KLAUS @ Jan 23 2010, 09:19 AM) View Post
dont allow SK or i gonna arti/stike/panza the shit out of u icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif screwy.gif icon_arrow.gif

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btw i voted no sk...


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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:03 PM

QUOTE(XpLosive @ Jan 23 2010, 12:54 PM) View Post
QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 23 2010, 01:38 PM) View Post
allow sk without the use of explosives


leave me out of this ;)


Be like throwing a fire cracker at a tank xplo. hehe
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:19 PM

B1 one is a mix of pro, old guys, young guys and newbies. SK is for pro, which I am far removed from.

I played on the UH server last year and it reminded me how much I hated it. It also spurs camping that detracts from the mission.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 11:39 PM

Omg Never! it would be so boring. Never never never
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 01:15 AM

QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 24 2010, 05:38 AM) View Post
allow sk without the use of explosives



this is actually exactly what i was gonna say...but at the same time admining becomes even harder because sk is ok but than it happens with panzar or rnade or grenade and we will have to warn for it aswell:)
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE(leaDpoisAn @ Jan 23 2010, 10:19 PM) View Post
B1 one is a mix of pro, old guys, young guys and newbies. SK is for pro, which I am far removed from.

I played on the UH server last year and it reminded me how much I hated it. It also spurs camping that detracts from the mission.


Great point.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE(keisko @ Jan 24 2010, 02:16 AM) View Post
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B1 one is a mix of pro, old guys, young guys and newbies. SK is for pro, which I am far removed from.

I played on the UH server last year and it reminded me how much I hated it. It also spurs camping that detracts from the mission.


Great point.


Agree
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 12:03 PM

i say yes..becose sk is a part of the game.Push the group back to the spawn is importend to win a game.
Make the spawnprotection longer is a good way.
on other servern you lost your protection if you make the first shoot ( ore 5 sec)
You can run out of spawn without kill from mortar ore campers..
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 01:28 PM

doesnt even pay to vote now
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 04:41 PM

To allow spawnkilling would only bring mess to game. I'm happy this rule is going to stay, based on poll.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 06:13 PM

QUOTE(Brew @ Jan 26 2010, 01:28 PM) View Post
doesnt even pay to vote now



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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:50 AM

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 05:49 PM

Ive voted NEVER.

If SK is allowed all hell will break out. Mass sk will go on and thats when ppl leave server. Ive seen this happon.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 23 2010, 12:38 PM) View Post
allow sk without the use of explosives


This one would be good.. voted yes, but its pretty obvious most don't want SKing.. just had to vote =P.
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